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1. • CommentAuthorburbs
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

    
   hereby starts planning for the spring '10 racing season. I've been super bored/ unmotivated lately, so i am gonna start planning for spring. who all is racing/ what category?

   Hell Yeah!: isaac

   sorry kdub. this better?
2. • CommentAuthorlXO
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

    
   I am racing as a cat fg next year

   Hell Yeah!: isaac, burbs
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     CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

    
   I'm racing. Team: Bicycle Haus Racing. Category: Thunder

   Hell Yeah!: isaac
4. •  
     CommentAuthorS. Felde
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

    
   I'm debating racing this season, it just depends how hard I can push myself these next 2 months. I'm slowly working into my old healthy diet, but with finals and holidays comes shitty eating habits and the need to consume gratuitous amounts of alcohol.
   
   Cat 5 for me haha.

   Hell No!: Sensi
5. •  
     CommentAuthorisaac
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

    
   racing ftw!
   
   here is a link to the 2010 race season schedule.
   
   click here

   Hell Yeah!: jeremyHCD
6. •  
     CommentAuthorSteveAZ
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

    
   Debating?????? That's not a racing attitude!
   
   I'm racing and I don't give a shit if I'm fat and out of shape..it'll be hella fun...and that's what counts!
   
   Fat old guys FTW!
   
   Cat 5 road/Cat 2 (sport) MTB
   
   Edit...Spring my ass, racing season starts in less than 2 months!I have nicer cars at home!
7. • CommentAuthorburbs
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

    
   

   Hell Yeah!: isaac, SteveAZ

   sorry kdub. this better?
8. •  
     CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

    
   Yeah Scott, just come out and race and have fun. It's a blast!
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     CommentAuthortrashcan
   • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

    
   how much does riding your bike with other people cost?I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
10. •  
      CommentAuthorSteveAZ
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    A
    
    and a
    I have nicer cars at home!
11. • CommentAuthorK Dub
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    If you're on a decent team you can get entry fee reimbursements.
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      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    How many races can you run fixed out here?I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
13. • CommentAuthorlXO
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    You can run fixed in most any race if your bike is otherwise set up to UCI requirements (two brakes, drops, etc.). There are some races that have a fg only cat.
14. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     

    Posted By: Trashcamhow much does riding your bike with other people cost?

    
    Riding your bike with other people is free. Racing your bike in sanctioned cycling events usually has an entry fee. Like K-Dub said, some teams have race fee reimbursement. Also team deals on bikes, clothing, components, etc. Even without the race fee reimbursement it's really not very expensive.
15. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     

    Posted By: TrashcamHow many races can you run fixed out here?

    
    Theres also az track events held every year in SD. Those are pretty cool. It's a series of races.
16. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    ^there are a couple of fixed crits.. i think there was 2 last year. They also did two fixed races last year for the wednesday night worlds crits.. fun stuff
17. •  
      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    Maybe for Daddy Warbucks, I have trouble spending any money to ride my bike. Not everyone can fire on dialed shit all day long.I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
18. •  
      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    I snuck into the SD velo, I hope it's more fun without risers and a 42/15 ratio.I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
19. • CommentAuthorburbs
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    when does that wednesday night series start up? i used to live too far away to even pretend, but no im like 10 mins down the road and would love to hit that upsorry kdub. this better?
20. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    ^i cant remember. they'll post it up on azcycling. it doesnt start for a while i'm pretty sure.. maybe like march? i cant remember
21. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

     

    Posted By: TrashcamMaybe for Daddy Warbucks, I have trouble spending any money to ride my bike. Not everyone can fire on dialed shit all day long.

    
    Ha I don't think any of us are "Daddy Warbucks". You're not paying to ride, you're paying to race. Bike rides are free, I go on them all the time. The way I look at it, you're contributing to your local race community. It's not like the teams/groups organizing these races make tons of money off these races. In lots of cases they break even after all the permits, etc that go into throwing a large santioned race. Not to mention the amount of hours people have to volunteer. I can attest to that after spending a lot of time helping with the Cyclo De Mayo race that Bicycle Haus threw last year. Garrett, Jesse and a bunch of us put lots of time into helping out at that race. Team sports ftw!
    
    The only thing I fire on all day long is my laptop keyboard.
    
    Now if you'll excuse me, my helicopter has just dropped off my fresh Maine lobsters, and Jay-Z gets pissed if I'm late for our lunch date.
    

    Hell Yeah!: SuicideKing2, LTD
22. • CommentAuthorceleste
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    i tried to come up with a clever category to race in, but my creativity is running dry.
    
    so ... i will be coming out to watch races! i went to a lot last year and it was tons of fun. moral support ftw?

    Hell Yeah!: jeremyHCD, dr socks
23. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    You should come out and do some races Celeste. You would do good. Josiah can hold your purse and clap for you.

    Hell Yeah!: celeste
24. • CommentAuthorceleste
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    jeremy, first, i don't carry a purse! hahah. but really, i want to do some races! first i want to scope out some other lady roadies. no homo. i'd like to see what other women are doing to see where i need to get to so i'm not getting lapped ha. are there any BH women that are riding?
25. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    ^yeah BH women will be out in full force. I think most of them are pro 1/2 tho so you shouldnt have to worry about them. Do a cat 5 race, u'll do fine celeste!! we'll all be yelling at you! :)
26. • CommentAuthorceleste
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    ha dang! now that i think about it, i've only been to crits. for women's crits i'm guessing everyone is lumped together, or do they separate it out? or does it depend on the race? sorry i don't know anything about this stuff!
    
    do you guys know of any other road girls? billy mentioned that i should ride with a gal named hannah?
27. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    I think BH also hosts some ladies ride from time to time. You should check them out, Celeste. If you want to check out lady roadies, go to the Tribe ride. There's a lot of women who come out for that ride. Might give you a good insight to your competition. There's also another Tribe on Saturday morning and there's tons of women on that ride. And like Jesse said, if you do some racing, we'll all cheer you on!
28. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     

    Posted By: celesteha dang! now that i think about it, i've only been to crits. for women's crits i'm guessing everyone is lumped together, or do they separate it out? or does it depend on the race? sorry i don't know anything about this stuff!

    
    If I remember correctly, I think most womens races lump categories together. I think it's like 3/4/5 all together and then 1/2 together.
29. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    yeah hanna does tours and stuff, i dont think she's into racing.. i'm not sure tho. There is this babe, i mean girl, that rides on the bike haus team named alex, this is her first race season also, so maybe her? Sorry i dont know much about the ladies racing either. I know they group like the 4's and 5's together.. and like the 1-2-3's maybe together?? i think it depends on race to race. But even if u are bunched with other cats you will still be placed accordingly (if your the first cat 5 you'll still win the cat 5 race) does that make sense?? sorry i suck at typing and trying to get my point across.
30. •  
      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    Take your other hand off your dick.I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
31. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    Jesse's right. About Alex being a babe and about the grouping of categories in a race. If they put the 3/4/5 all together, each category is scored seperately. So the 5's are only racing against the 5's.
32. • CommentAuthorceleste
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    thanks dudes. and that definitely makes sense. i figured they would rank them according to cat, but i figured they would race together due to smaller numbers in every group. my only experience paying attention to placing was at the track, and it's a bit easier to figure out considering you're in the stands and everything is right in front of you.
    
    i will definitely come out to the tribe ride and start doing more stuff like that. i'm ready to get serious about riding, so i'm stoked!
    
    sorry for turning this into a ladies racing Q&A. oops!

    Hell Yeah!: isaac, jeremyHCD
33. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    ^its all good, get stoked! we all are!!
34. •  
      CommentAuthorAlex Steezeman
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    Definitely wanna do whatever fixed crits there are, cause I managed to miss every one last year.

    Hell Yeah!: isaac
35. •  
      CommentAuthorLoveland
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    I'd love to get into racing this coming up season but I know absolutely nothing about it! Are the races team based or are they solo? As in do I have to be part of a team or can I just enter myself. Also, you all had mentioned a tire pile before - Would I then have to bring a tire or is that just optional. What is the etiquette for these races as well - I've never raced (besides alleycats) so I don't know what you are/aren't allowed to do. Would there be any kind of instructional portion (haha wow) before-hand or whatever? Like I said, I'd like to at least enter and see how I'd do, but I know absolutely nothing besides what crit and cat stand for...Yup
36. • CommentAuthorK Dub
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     

    Posted By: TrashcamMaybe for Daddy Warbucks, I have trouble spending any money to ride my bike. Not everyone can fire on dialed shit all day long.LoCa$h

    Stop spending so much money on booze and cigarettes and you will be able to afford to race and also become a better rider. It costs money to shut down roads, get the permits, hire the cops to block things off, pay for advertisements, etc. If you have something against this aspect of racing or racing in general go post your angst in the trick thread since no one in here really cares to hear your opinion on how racing is for the bourgeoisie. Even running track costs money and its about the simplest sport a person can do.
37. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    ^i think you mentioned that you dont have a road bike right? So first you would need one of those. A criterium, or crit, is a bike race held on a short course (usually less than 5 km), often run on closed-off city center streets. No you do not have to bring extra wheels (not just a tire) for the wheel pit but it is nice to have a set in. You can race unattached "no team." But of course it is nice to have a strong or the strongest team like mine! (cat 4 anyways) :) hahaha
38. •  
      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    I am pretty sure everyone cares about everything I say in every thread, and yeah I know racing costs money, setting things up costs money, but I really don't see a point in paying to ride a bike. This point makes sense in the racing thread because it has to do with racing.I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
39. • CommentAuthorK Dub
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    I will be racing 4's in NY. No calendar up yet, but I will probably do a few local things since I don't really want to drive 4 hours to race a cat 4 race. Its also my last semester in grad school so I'm sure that will be fun. I'm also going to do the Table Rock Road Race in Oregon and a few local crits there as well. I should be in Switzerland this summer so depending on my work schedule I'd like to do a few cat 4 equivalent races out there. Fall I'll be racing 4's in D.C. or racing somewhere in Austria, Germany, or Belgium.

    Hell Yeah!: isaac
40. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

     

    Posted By: TrashcamI am pretty sure everyone cares about everything I say in every thread, and yeah I know racing costs money, setting things up costs money, but I really don't see a point in paying to ride a bike. This point makes sense in the racing thread because it has to do with racing.LoCa$h

    
    ^yeah who cares..anyways..
    
    who's in for the U of A crit on Jan. 30th?? I'll be there for sure working for either billy, begley, or russ??
41. • CommentAuthorK Dub
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     

    Posted By: TrashcamI am pretty sure everyone cares about everything I say in every thread, and yeah I know racing costs money, setting things up costs money, but I really don't see a point in paying to ride a bike. This point makes sense in the racing thread because it has to do with racing.LoCa$h

    then don't fuckin do it and leave it at that. not very difficult...
42. •  
      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    I hear in Europe all the racer dudes walk around naked and covered in cologne. Thanks Dustin's birthday gift. I would pay money to do that.I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
43. • CommentAuthorburbs
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    in for the uofa kit. shoulda bought a asu kit to race for free, but not into the clubsorry kdub. this better?
44. •  
      CommentAuthorisaac
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     

    Posted By: burbsin for the uofa kit. shoulda bought a asu kit to race for free, but not into the club

    
    somebody let me borrow there asu kit so i can race the collegiate catagory!!
45. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

     

    Posted By: TrashcamI am pretty sure everyone cares about everything I say in every thread, and yeah I know racing costs money, setting things up costs money, but I really don't see a point in paying to ride a bike. This point makes sense in the racing thread because it has to do with racing.

    
    I don't understand your point. Sanctioned competitive racing in any form cost money; whether it's cars, bmx, motocross, fuck even skateboarding contests have entry fees. Yes, you can do all those activities on the street, which is awesome. But if you want to race against others in a closed course of some sort, typically there's some sort of fee for events. I dont get how this simple fact evades you?
46. • CommentAuthorburbs
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    sorry-meant uofa race not kit.sorry kdub. this better?
47. •  
      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    No, I completely understand this, but I also don't see a point in racing cars, bmx, or skating in a competition. It doesn't have any appeal to pay for something you can do for free. I have entered skate comps, but only when a sponsor was taking care of the entry. Hell, if racing was free for me, I would have no problem doing it, except for my lack of speed and endurance.I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
48. •  
      CommentAuthorjeremyHCD
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    I see what you're saying. To each their own, I suppose.
49. •  
      CommentAuthortrashcan
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009

     
    Yeah, you're not spending my money riding your bike. Have a ball.I may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us
50. •  
      CommentAuthordr socks
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2009 edited

     

    Posted By: TrashcamNo, I completely understand this, but I also don't see a point in racing cars, bmx, or skating in a competition. It doesn't have any appeal to pay for something you can do for free. I have entered skate comps, but only when a sponsor was taking care of the entry. Hell, if racing was free for me, I would have no problem doing it, except for my lack of speed and endurance.LoCa$h

    
    
    I don't want to drag this out, but...
    
    I have always found that a racing environment is different enough from the everyday training (or dicking-around) environment that it's justified - for me. It definitely takes a different attitude than the everyday doing-of-that-thing. I learned from the Tour de Tucson that racing bicycles probably isn't for me, but I LOVE rowing races. A good race is an incredibly satisfying experience.
    
    It has a lot to do with setting a personal goal, then working towards that goal, and being successful in reaching it (or not quite reaching it, but using that as fuel for the fire). Theoretically, you could decide to ride ___ miles in ___ time on your own, but doing that completely by yourself isn't as satisfying as having company, and unless you announce your intentions to other people, nobody else will really care. It's way less exciting/interesting to have low expectations, or to go into a race knowing that you won't have any competition.
    
    Celeste, good luck with getting started with racing, and have FUN!KEEP TEMPE HOT! (and feed Trifle to the Streetkings)