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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJun 5th 2012
Would like to venture into Ti, I don't think my capabilities with aluminum would be public consumption worthy.SKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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CommentAuthorPulley
- CommentTimeJun 5th 2012
When you going to start building SS 29er's?There is no spoon. -
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeJun 5th 2012
after a road bike that k-dub can't break. -
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CommentAuthorTheWizard
- CommentTimeJun 6th 2012
^^^custom aluminum will be the new Magnesium. China's giving up on it because of crabon! -
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CommentAuthortrashcan
- CommentTimeJun 6th 2012
My clear job turned out shit but I should hopefully have all the parts to ride in a couple.Hell Yeah!: TheWizardI may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJul 22nd 2012 edited
one of the builds i am working on now is a road set up with an ISP. Trying to work out a design with standard setback in steel. All of the off the shelf toppers are for carbon tubes. The set is HERE
uses standard seatpost hardware (specialized)
Hell Yeah!: Ishmael, StPaul, K Dub, NickNewport, B-HardSKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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CommentAuthorB-Hard
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2012
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CommentAuthormjfarsi
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2012
^do you mean "booties"?Seriously though, how do Q-Rings work without a derailleur? -
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2012
what does the topper weigh? -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2012
Will be considerably Less than a post and shortened seat tube is the hope. I'll get final numbers for you at build finish.SKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2012
Word, I'm just curious. It looks sturdy- I'd love to see this on an ISP MTB with a specially drawn and butted tube and use the material as a bit of rear dampening. Same theory would apply to a cross bike too I guess.
You think of using Ritchey internals at all? I ask because its really easy to get the Ritchey parts for different shaped saddle rails. Solid work though! -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2012
The design could be adapted to Ritchey components. The machining part would be similar. Specialized offers the hardware separate. Not sure if Ritchey does as well.SKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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CommentAuthorTheWizard
- CommentTimeJul 24th 2012
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJul 29th 2012 edited
Working on some internally routed cable straws including stops on the TT of the road build.
more pics hereHell Yeah!: TheWizardSKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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- CommentAuthorburbs
- CommentTimeJul 29th 2012
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJul 29th 2012
Copper? As in making a bike from copper instead of steel? Or did you mean Cooper?SKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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CommentAuthorZigZag
- CommentTimeJul 29th 2012
Yeah, copper sounds kind of retarded.Hella deeznuts -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJul 29th 2012 edited
the "copper" bikes you see around are steel coated with a thin plating of copper.
he might have meant something like this
SKFrames ...what i do with my free time
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
nah homie, he meant this legend:
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CommentAuthorx-ray
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012 edited
Posted By: SuicideKingthe "copper" bikes you see around are steel coated with a thin plating of copper.
SKFrames...what i do with my free time
what he said, its a similar proccess to chrome plateing, and as of recently unless you do a ton of leg work on your own to make your parts baby skin smooth before you send them anywhere to be plated they come back looking like shit.
edit: also why would you want this? Copper tarnishes extremely fast meaning it constantly has to be polish and cleaned to keep fingerprints from turning it all different colors of green.Give an Engineer an inch, and they'll measure it. -
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CommentAuthorDobber
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
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CommentAuthorx-ray
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
With the 5 C's and all? nope i had no clue about it.Give an Engineer an inch, and they'll measure it. -
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CommentAuthorDobber
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
I'm trying to find the introduction of the plumber bike on the AZfixed boards but I can't seem to find the thread.So cold in the T. -
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- CommentAuthorburbs
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
thanks for all that. i meant cooper hahahasorry kdub. this better? -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
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CommentAuthorZigZag
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
Burbs, would you ask your girlfriend if she knows any cute single girls? Think about it bruh.Hella deeznuts -
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- CommentAuthorburbs
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
i want an sk frame hardcore but i know im not the first in line!!! SK= lez talksorry kdub. this better? -
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CommentAuthorTheWizard
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2012
Posted By: burbsthanks for all that. i meant cooper hahahasorry kdub. this better?
Not tryna throw a wet towel on SK's budding operation, just throwing a recommend for Cooper. He made a rando fork for me on a hella hyphy tyte deadline and was super accomodating. If I weren't planning to build my next Wizard bike(s) from scratch, I'd be hitting him up.
There's a copper-plated Puch-Bergmeister that comes into Bike Saviours on occasion. It's 40 years old, has been ridden cross-country a few times and looks fucking awesome. I doubt he wanks it all the time to keep it steampunk-shiny but there's no green patina and the natural tarnish looks good up close. -
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- CommentAuthorCooperWorks
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
Burbs- Thanks for thinking of me for a frame even though you can't spell my name right. Unfortunately I would not be able to build a frame for you at this time. I am still trying to finish up a frame for a friend, which has taken way longer than I wanted.
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- CommentAuthorCooperWorks
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2012
Job, a baby and wife have ate into frame building, plus the 110 degree garage slow it down. I will be another 6 month after I finish the frame with a few for family members and for myself. If your still in the market at that time hit me back. If SK can build for you I would say go for it, from the looks of his work can build a good frame.
SK that seat mast is killer, will be a nice addition to a frame, post that on FNL at velocipesalon -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
They don't care much for me on that site. But thanks fOr the comPliment. That bike has been on your stand for a while. I know the feeling. The heat just takes a bite out of garage time.SKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
Why don't they like you on there SK? I wouldn't worry- I know the guy who owns it and a lot of the posters. They're generally douchebags, very slow, and super arrogant about gear. One wrenched at our shop for a while and was a trust funder that blew most of his money on weird esoteric bike shit no one would care about off that site. -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
Well clearly you just don't know how lively a bike with a 1 inch headtube, steel fork, and hand painted logos really is. Its all about the souplesse of having a frame with the rigidity of PVC pipe and one of the most mundane paint jobs on earth.Hell Yeah!: x-ray -
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CommentAuthorTheWizard
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
^and he basically says that everyone else should GTFO of building bikes. And they lap it up!
I like his back to basics style. The parts he brands are nice, but not entirely unique and unheard of. And his history lessons are worth reading. But there's definitely *some* room left in the tent if a guy can eke out a living by cranking out 50-or-so functionally identical frames a year. He likes to do what he is best at. Doesn't mean that's the only thing that could or should be done. I just don't understand how one could go decades making the same bike, however good it is, EVERY time.
I've met so many of these similarly cranky (and usually old) bastards amongst metal fabricators that I have simply learned to ignore their compensating behavior and bluster while trying to understand the important things that they say and do. That's why chill dudes like Garrett and Andrew are especially rad, you can just straight up talk with them without attending to some bullshit ego. -
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- CommentAuthorCooperWorks
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
SK- who care what some of them think I post from time to time and there are a few that like to see good work like you do, maybe not the guys who are full time, or sach and the like. Trust me that seat mast would make some of the hobby builders and part times drool.
As for R Sach, yeah a lot of the hobby and pro builders stroke him every week. But there is alot of good frame builders on there that share a lot of good info, ( some of the good ones have left, ( KIRK, STEELMAN, STRONG)
I agree Wizard, building that same frame for 20 year fucking boring. But a good living
the frame builder forum on MTBR.com is good as well. good info and mostly only about making your own tooling, and building MTB frames
guys like us always get hard critics because we are a nobody that can build a good frames
I am going to really try to post every friday here, even if its just a single weld or a new tool, get our own FNL going.
WIZARD need some pics of the jig or frames if you got any, I am interested to see where your at with it. -
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CommentAuthorTheWizard
- CommentTimeAug 1st 2012
Posted By: CooperWorksWIZARD need some pics of the jig or frames if you got any, I am interested to see where your at with it.
I'm getting some practice with a mini-mill right now. when I'm good on it, I'll hog out the pivots for it and bolt the f'er together. -
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CommentAuthordr socks
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2012
I felt a bit awkward about running around and ogling the shop at R&E Cycles too much, but took a couple of blurry photos while there. I would highly recommend a visit if/when any of you are in Seattle.
Here's an article about the shop's history: http://www.rodbikes.com/articles/historical-tour/historical-tour.html
And blurry photo album can be found here: http://pics.livejournal.com/rebeccmeister/pic/002x39tw/g147
When I took a photo of their frame jig, the guy who was welding nearby said, "I hope that nobody tries to recreate this jig based on photos." He said it weighs around 2000 pounds, and a lot of work went into it, clearly.Hell Yeah!: SuicideKingKEEP TEMPE HOT! (and feed Trifle to the Streetkings) -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2012
I am considering going “offsite” with the frame building operation. Meaning renting a space somewhere in Tempe or Mesa proper most likely. I recently had the opportunity to tour a collective of frame builders in Minneapolis and wondered if anyone here is/would be interested in throwing in. The agreement details would still need to be hammered out, however most likely it would involve space, power, AC, and the security of locking the place up at night and not shared tools per se’. It could all be a pipe dream however it could also be great. Think the ICYC minus the loud music, punks and accompanying odor.
Hell Yeah!: trashcan, NickNewport, B-Hard, Power Juice, adamo, x-raySKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
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CommentAuthortrashcan
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2012
Assuming I wont have enough to pitch in, but sounds like a good idea if you can get a few solid dudes in there.Hell Yeah!: dr socksI may or may not have the "tenure" of the BEAST.ct- tcan is the only real man among us -
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CommentAuthordr socks
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2012
Posted By: SuicideKingI am considering going “offsite” with the frame building operation. Meaning renting a space somewhere in Tempe or Mesa proper most likely. I recently had the opportunity to tour a collective of frame builders in Minneapolis and wondered if anyone here is/would be interested in throwing in. The agreement details would still need to be hammered out, however most likely it would involve space, power, AC, and the security of locking the place up at night and not shared tools per se’. It could all be a pipe dream however it could also be great. Think the ICYC minus the loud music, punks and accompanying odor.
Hell Yeah!:trashcan,
There are a lot of potential benefits from setting up studio-type space. I hope you can make it happen.KEEP TEMPE HOT! (and feed Trifle to the Streetkings) -
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeAug 17th 2012
SK- Any thoughts on Gaulzetti or Hufnagel? Considering custom soon and these are two options. Most builders I've gotten in contact with aren't super friendly, willing to worth with anything cool, or enthusiastic about my paint idea. -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeAug 17th 2012
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeAug 17th 2012
Any other recs? Willing to take on the job yourself if I can source tubes? -
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CommentAuthorTheWizard
- CommentTimeSep 9th 2012
There's a biggish surface plate on CL for checking runout. I also have some spare height gauges
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/tls/3259672972.html -
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeSep 10th 2012
Posted By: SuicideKingI think Hufnagel does fantastic clean work. If he has time, that is a great place for an investment frame.
Dude was kind of a primadonna and isn't accepting orders. Still haven't found a builder whose product I'm super stoked on. Let me know if you're ever down to make a steel road frame that'd go to a good home.Hell Yeah!:StPaulSKFrames...what i do with my free time -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeNov 13th 2012
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CommentAuthorIshmael
- CommentTimeNov 13th 2012
Ship that hot rod straight to Lake Wobegon!death by strava -
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- CommentAuthorK Dub
- CommentTimeNov 14th 2012
What tubing did you use and who is it for? -
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CommentAuthorSuicideKing
- CommentTimeNov 14th 2012
Columbus. Shawn Brick. Friend of mine.SKFrames ...what i do with my free time -
